Flatland is a simple little game based on the novel of the same name. There are other RPG adaptations of the setting, but this was made. The Original Flatland Role Playing Game. After hearing about this on a mailing list, I thought that it was a really good idea to pass it along to as. Sales of The Original Flatland Role Playing Game, which is sold in aid of Doctors Without Borders, have been slow recently. I’ve decided to try an experiment;.
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Discworld is not at all like Flatland — no explorations of worlds with more or less than three dimensions, just parodies of various science-fiction and fantasy. Let’s wait until the movie exists before we link to it – the world is full of “almost-made” movies that never make it to “made” – although it looks like it could be good. The movie has been made — just awaiting release http: Maybe I’m mistaken, but I seem to remember the sphere telling Square that Flatland was on the surface of a body of water, like a sea.
What you style Flatland is the vast level surface of what I may call a fluid, on, or in, flaland top of which you and your countrymen move about, without rising above it or falling below it.
Does anybody recall a more recent novel based on a two-dimensional universe? I know it exists and I’ve read it, but I don’t know the title off hand. It was somewhat more technical in approach, but flatlnd was most definately inspired by Flatland. Didn’t this originally have links to the Flatland RPG sites? I found one of them eventually by going through three or four links, but can’t find the other at all now.
The KaSe game was at http: Hope this helps Marcus Rowland Lots of nice links to further reading, but I’ve still no idea what the novella is about. I know that it’s of interest to mathematicians, but no clue as to its actual substance. Even though flatlanders could only view two dimensional objects in one dimensional cross sections, couldn’t they have utilized paralax?
It’s analogous to us three dimensional beings. We only view the world through two dimensional cross sections you can never see an entire 3D object all at once without rotating it and going inside of it.
Yet, we have depth perception because the closer an object is to the eyes, the more different cross sections that are produced in each eye. It just seems like the “fog” and “feeling” is a messy idea that could have been solved easily. Paralax would have solved the problem of getting impaled by a woman for example, because although a woman might appear pointlike to one eye, she would appear as a line segment in the other eye due to the different viewing angles of each eye.
It’s not called paralax, it’s stereopsis, but same principle. Flatlanders only have one eye – it’s also used as their mouth. If they arre geometrical shapes without any internal structure they would fall apart if there was more than one opening into their bodies, which is why impalement is so deadly.
This is actually one of the most interesting and least explored ideas in this remarkable book. The quote above explains how the Flatlanders can see each other due to a slight perception of the third dimension, but I will admit I can’t grasp the analogy to our world. What is the slight perception of the fourth dimension that we are seeing but can’t really perceive?
Can anyone provide any additional insights to help me to understand this idea better? Having only run through some of the book, I’m not sure if this is relevant but: In part 1, section 3, they refer to the lower class inhabitants as “creatures almost on a level with women in their lack of intelligence”. Unless this is some sort of victorian humour that I don’t understand, I think it deserves to be at least mentioned here. Unfortunately, satire is often misinterpreted today.
I suppose people of today may not be aware that when flatlands was written, the important battles to gain Woman’s Suffrage were being fought, and that “Flatlands” was an instrument of change. Comments are regularly made about “Huckleberry Finn” showing complete lack of awareness of its role in the abolition of slavery. Perhaps people will also make flaatland comments about Swift’s “A Modest Proposal”.
The Original Flatland RPG
I was told by my Geometry teacher when we read the book that Abbott used a penname when he originally published it. If so, it would be flayland mentioning. It is a surprisingly common mistake for people to think that the narrator of Flatland is named “A.
This is not true, however. The original title page said, “By A Square”–no period after the “A”, lfatland is simply the indefinite article this can be seen on the title page reproduced in this Wikipedia article. Throughout the novel, not a single character is named. I have corrected this mistake in the article here.
It would be nice to add in information stuff about how Flatland is a satire of Victorian society rather than just talking about the book itself. Perhaps that could be included in the “Other Uses” section? Anyone know anything about the First Edition of it? Evidently something was changed from edition to edition, and I’d like to know what.
Talk:Flatland – Wikipedia
This book has caused some damage. It leads impressionable people to believe that a dimension is a world that is inhabited by observers. It gives the impression that a dimension is a universe or a realm of being. It describes intelligent beings who flztland come from a certain world and be able to detect more dimensions than beings who have more limited intelligences and who live in another fatland world.
These are all false spatial metaphors. Foatland so doing, the book misleads people and prevents them from understanding that a dimension is merely a way of measuring, determined by the constitution of our animal brains. As a result of this constitution, there can be only three spatial dimensions.
The author cleverly presents authoritative people who live in worlds of limited dimensions as cruel, tyrannical, and bloodthirsty. This engenders sympathy for people who crave the liberation of being able to know and experience more spatial dimensions. Many generations have been misinformed and misled by Flatland into misunderstanding the word dimension. It is likely that the damage is irreparable and dimension joins the many other words in our language whose original and proper meaning has been forever lost and whose signified concepts will now be always be misunderstood.
Your facetious post reveals the extent of the damage that has been done. What is your definition of dimension? I am not so sure, Lestrade, that the mathematical insights in “Flatlands” are limiting. I suspect that nearly all string theorists have read the first three chapters of Flatlands, and some of them have used Flatland as a conceptual framework to be able to visualize higher dimensions.
I agree that combining Cartesian determinacy with Flatlands’ dimensional limitation makes relativistic curving of spacetime a bit harder to fathom, but that is DesCartes’ doing, not Abbott’s. Could the Homer 3 episode of the Simpons as mentioned on http: The first exposure I had to Flatland was as the inspiration for a young adult novel I read many years ago. That book doesn’t appear to be among the related works listed in the article.
Dorkland!: The Original Flatland Role Playing Game
Unfortunately I do not recall the title or author. It was about a schoolboy and, eventually, his female friend who stumbles into hyperspace and has various adventures and mishaps. It also featured the existance of lower dimensional spaces, similar to flatland, but on the surface of a sphere. In the end he becomes a member of a secret society tasked flatlanr protecting one of them from from higher dimensional beings such as, ironically, himself.
Does anyone know the book I’m refering too? In Flatland Abbott describes a society rigidly divided into classes. Social ascent is the main aspiration of its inhabitants, apparently granted to everyone but in reality strictly controlled by the few that are already positioned at the top of the hierarchy. Freedom is despised and the laws are cruel.
Innovators are either imprisoned or suppressed. Members of lower classes who are intellectually valuable, and potential leaders of riots, are either killed or corrupted by being promoted to the upper classes.
The organisation and government of ‘Flatland’ is so self-satisfied and perfect that every attempt for change is considered dangerous and harmful. This world, as ours, is flattland prepared to receive ‘Revelations from another world’.
Correct me if I am mistaken, as it has been 17 years since I’ve read this, but aren’t the females all thin isosceles triangles that could potentially impale the flatlanders? We’ve entered a minor back-and-forth about whether to list editions in print.
I was the first editor to return this list to the article after it was deleted, but I was mostly responding to the perhaps unintentional deletion of the “adaptions and parodies” section header as part of the deletion. Looking at it more closely, I agree that listing editions in print is unnecessary and could be removed from the article. The superimposition shows that the SVG version was very close to the rpgg.
A few differences were made. The squiggle that the original shows at the top of flatlanc compass was probably a fleur-de-lis, so I drew one. The fleurs-de-lis at wikimedia commons were not public domain, and I didn’t want hassles with attribution, preferring public domain when possible. Most compass-legends in old maps used fleurs-de-lis, so we can surmise that that is what Abbott rppg in his drawing.
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